Firstly, here is an amazing video that everyone needs to watch. It is four minutes long.
If you do not have the time to watch it, or your computer in work will not allow you to watch it, I hate you and do not want you to read this blog. Now this might lead me to have all of three or four readers, but they will be the three or four readers that will try and regenerate their mids and actually learn something rather than simply regurgitating what they already know. Perspective is everything and everything we do should lead to new insights into ourselves and our environments. I have nowhere near the knowledge I will have this time next year and in five years time, but I will make sure I continue to improve.
Clearly, you wise readers can see where this post is going. Are we connecting with people to learn more and discussing ideas and concepts, or are we arguing our points of view and refusing to budge from our stance no matter what? I hoped this blog would be the latter but most readers tend to observe rather than interact. Here is a post that got scant discussion and it deserves more. David very clearly states his views and there was little to no discussion of them which I think David deserves for formally putting out his views and opening them up for debate. Let your opinion be heard and have your say!
I find the idea of training twice a week to be great if I need to get fresh for a competition and feel rejuvinated, but I do not find it conducive to building skill and refining technique. However, I think that David is right in that too many people try to train like full time professional weightlifters who are on so much juice that they are a walking advertisement for Tropicana OJ. This is the reason I am only training three times a week for the next 8 weeks. I am mind numbingly busy and I try to train more I shall regress completely.
Different systems work for different lifters and I believe programming needs to vary according to one's long term plan and at what stage of the year you are at. That is my view and what I find works best for me. What my body needs, and what Wayne Healy's (he writes my program) is entirely different. My body type and ohysical requirements are entirely seperate from his. I have flexibility and mobility issues and he does not have any, which means my body's ability to perform a program is totally different. He is also a 62kg lifter with very high skill levels while I am a 94kg lifter who has neither the skill nor the physical capacity to maintain positions that he has--I am getting there though, slowly but surely.
Throughout my last four months of lifting we have learned the following:
1. I was as intelligent as this person in not following my program properly. I injured my hip by not having a download week when I needed one and let my ego do the talking, not the program:
2. I am very happy with my current phase of training because I am working on getting stronger as well as increasing the intensity slowly and taking some of the volume out because I have a few competitions coming up. The focus in still on the Europeans next April and we don't feel it would be conducive to have a full competition period of training yet.
3. I need some flexion exercises for my back and also a lot of mobility work for my hips. Most people are able to lift with an arched or flat back and I am not. This requires slightly different programming to most.
4. Now, I need to shut up; prevent over-analysing and be very proactive in how I recover so that my training and lifting will hit levels like never before. Feel free to do this to me if I do not follow through with this action plan:
What are you learning and how do you like to train? Are you going to read this and simply think "this guy is irritating and has an embarrassing lack of knowledge about our sport" or are you going to start up a discussion rather than an argument. How does YOUR body react to training? EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT There are principles of training and there are programs no matter what. What do you follow?
Saturday 30 October 2010
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7 comments:
very thought provoking post and its good to see you writing your own posts instead of getting everyonelse to write your blog for you...
To answer your questions...
top 22 things i have learnt
1 dont do stupid things
2 be systematic
3 be patient
4 do what you are shit at
5 less thinking more lifting
6 dont do stuff that hurts
7 do heavy lifts note* heavy not maximal
8 do more full lifts
9 rip the head off the lion
10 build volume
11 build intensity
12 if i keep trying to do 10 and 11 together at the same time i break
13 get amaazing training partners get eamonn and byrd to move back to limerick full time
14 you must be able to pull the bar before you can squat it up to finish the lift (byrd 2010)
15 hips in and let rip (snatch and clean)
16 when and where to use different hang/ block variations
17 team sports are so easy compared to weightlifting
18 the importance in variation in terms of volume across the week/ month/ year
19 weightlifting is about more than being strong but it helps a lot
20 i must put my own weightlifting first
21 barry loves weightlifting
22 follow my programme ......
i like to do lots of singles doubles and trebles between 75-95 percent and then use over 95 percent sparingly and planned. yes using over 95 percent works but i break. i squat for 3-5s two to three days a week aiming for about 15-25 reps each session, i dont like to do snatch balance or squat but it makes my lifts better so i gotta do it. i like to use lots of variation in terms of powers/ hangs/blocks however the main part of programme is classic snatch clean and jerk.
the best gains i had in weightlifting was when i was very systematic and planned periods of increasing volume, increasing intensity and decreasing both of these variables. I used lots of doubles between 80-90% and then singles between 85-95 %.
Murph,
Awesome response. I think you should write for T-Nation, you have that "broscience" down to a t. I agree with most of your points and I hope you apply them to your training so you can qualify for the World University's.
David's way of setting out training is his way of doing things, and you must believe in your coaching philosophy, but it would hold more weight if the results backed up this way of preparing athletes, 93+123@69, 110+135@85, 131+151@94 these are average results and are not going to make people sit up and take note of a specific training method
Thanks for the comments, but I would rather you post with your real name. You have made an interesting point which David may respond to, but the idea of the post was to discuss our own training methodologies and what worked for us.
My point was that David bravely put his ideas forward and I feel that is to be commended. His system has clearly worked for him and it is at odds with ideas out there, but so are some of the things that have worked for me and others who read this blog. What has worked for you when you made your best gains?
Barry
Hi Barry,
Great blog! best blog ive seen so far
im very much a novice in lifting however have found the following system works really well for me.
For major exercises I do build up sets of 1x10 reps 2x8reps 2x6reps then 2 near max sets of 1-5reps then a drop set of 80% ive increased around 10kg per week in first 3 weeks and now around 2.5-5 per week im now lifting 1.9XBW in back squat for my near max sets
For supp exercises at end of session I superset using around 8-12 reps 3-4 sets.
I also use alot of weighted pull ups in my training which seems to be paying off
I enjoy this blog. I am not sure whether training comments from a masters weightlifter are any use to anyone. At the age of 44 last year, i started competing again. I packed in the sport at 17/18 for reasons I have yet to discover. Got to about 78+110 and had 115 locked out only to hurt my back. I have only managed 2 sessions since feb due to injuries caused my poor technique. I hope to lift very light token weight next week just to get the juices flowing again.
Here are some of my observations.
1. No-one is too old to compete
2. It is possible to continue to get stronger into your 40's and older [look at Laurences success]
3. I badly need to warm-up properly and do some flexibility work.
4. I should try and set some respectable masters records in case Barry lifts in his forties.
5. I would love to be part of the weightlifting scene not just a bit part player making up the numbers
6. I need to believe that with careful management of technique and training, I can enjoy this sport for many more years.
I have enormous respect for Barry and the rest of the guys who dedicate themselves to this sport. I think that Barry is a bit hard on himself at times but his enthusiasm for the sport and how it drives others is very commendable
Dude, this blog is really confusing - can you just get straight to how to get swelled and cut like a fucking diamond?!
later bitch,
drew
http://invincibleforce.blogspot.com/
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